Uncontested

Are you angry at me for not writing more about vote counting, fraud, spoilage and voter disenfranchisement? Well, rest assured that I am writing articles on that subject, and it will be discussed over the next couple of days. In the meantime, I want to write about something else that Democrats are not contesting, something that angers me to no end.

In the 2004 election, Democrats contested 398 House seats, even though there are 435 House seats. One of the seats Democrats did not contest, VT-AL, is held by Bernie Sanders and can be forgiven. The other thirty-six absolutely cannot be forgiven. Here they are:

AL-6; AZ-3; AZ-6; CA-22; CA-41; FL-4; FL-7; FL-9; FL-21; FL-24; FL-25; GA-1; GA-6; GA-7; GA-10; KS-1; KY-5; LA-04; MS-01; MS-03; NY-25!!!!!!; OK-03; OK-04; PA-05; PA-10; PA-19; SC-01; SC-03; TN-07; TX-03; TX-10; TX-13; TX-14; VA-01; VA-06; VA-07

Most, but not all, of these districts have horrible demographics for Democrats. I freely admit that had Democrats run in these districts, they all would probably have lost, and many, if not most, would probably have failed to come within 20%. However, even knowing this, I have had enough of the argument that even spending time to find a sacrificial lamb to run in these districts is a waste of Democratic Party resources. The fact is that for around $360,000, one-quarter the cost of a competitive congressional district, we could have found a candidate for each of these districts and raised $10,000 for that candidate's campaign. That $360,000 would have been the best $360,000 the Democratic Party would have spent at any level this entire election cycle. Combined throughout these districts, it probably would have resulted in another 1-2 million votes for Democrats for Congress. And that is just this election cycle and just in those congressional elections.

Abandoning a district has repercussions in other elections. On the Presidential level, Arizona (maybe), Florida, Pennsylvania, and Virginia are battleground states, but Democrats failed to give Kerry any down ticket help in 14 of the 72 congressional districts in those states: nearly one out of every five. Even a half-hearted campaign by a Democrat in each of those districts would surely have helped Kerry to the tune of at least a few hundred, and probably a few thousand, votes per district. The same could be said for competitive Senate races in Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania and South Carolina where Democrats abandoned nineteen congressional districts. Our chances to retake the Senate and the Presidency were dented because of our failure to compete everywhere in the House. The same can be said for elections concerning Governors, state legislatures, county executives, and basically any election you can name. By abandoning these districts, we abandoned our chances to squeeze crucial votes out of them for other candidates running for office in the district.

Most clearly, by failing to challenge these districts, we also failed to force existing GOP incumbents to raise money and spend campaign time that went to Republicans in more competitive elections. Two days ago, Kos summed this up perfectly, as he explained how our efforts in two House races that almost went uncontested, both of which we lost, helped us significantly in other races:

Richard Morrison
Morrison started out as a fringe candidate with no money when he was adopted by the Daily Kos community. He raised $60K, which he then turned into a real campaign, one that actually threatened DeLay.

DeLay garnered only 55 percent of the vote, his lowest total ever. He opened up campaign offices in the district and ran television commercials for the first time since his initial House victory. He remained in the district when he could've been out campaigning for other at-risk Republicans. He spent nearly $2 million to defend himself.

We pinned down DeLay in his home district. Mission accomplished.

Stan Matsunaka
Hatemonger Marylin Musgrave was headed to an easy, unchallenged victory, when Stan Matsunaka stepped up to the plate. We raised $44K for him. He lost 52-44.

Musgrave sweat this one. Not only did Musgrave spend $3 million of her own money, but the NRCC also threw in another $2 million to back her up. Matsunaka spent close to $600K and forced Republicans to spend $5 million that could've gone to other races -- all in a district that was almost uncontested.

Mission accomplished.

These were two districts that we nearly abandoned. However, for a small price, we forced the Reactionaries to spend more than $7M defending these two seats. That $7M could have fueled four more NRCC hate-mongering ad buys of the sort that they purchased against Lois Murphy and Ginny Schrader. By contesting those two districts, we prevented that from happening and may have saved four seats elsewhere. Had we contested all 36, who knows how much money we could have drained from GOP coffers.

Abandoning a district also has repercussions for future elections. Failing to challenge your opponent's message in an area is damaging to your message in that area in the future. Failing to provide a choice to those willing to support you--and there are always tens of thousands willing to support you in any congressional district--sends a message that you do not represent or care about those people. Even worse, failing to challenge an incumbent sends a message that you are afraid of your own beliefs and that you are not working to make this country a better Democracy.

Running a candidate in each of these districts would also have helped to identify Democratic activists in each of these districts. Identifying, encouraging, and assisting potential Dem activists throughout the entire country would help to strengthen the Party, both now and in future elections cycles. These are the people who can help to bring the Democratic message to every corner of the country.

Further, while most of these candidates would lose, not all of them would. One in particular where I know we could have done some real damage is the NY-25. This is the district where I grew up, and where my parents still live. Basically, the district is Syracuse and its extended suburbs. Although, after redistricting, it does include conservative Webster County, it is decidedly lean-Dem both on the Presidential vote and voter registration levels. Yet, we preposterously did not run a candidate in this district. It is the home of Michael Bragman, former deputy leader in the New York State Legislature, and Terry McAuliffe, former Democratic National Committee chairman. Both individuals have very high name recognition in this district and, I imagine, very good favorable ratings. When it comes to the needs of a single congressional district, both would be excellent fundraisers. However, Bragman did not run this time around even after retiring from the Legislature, so I feel his chance has passed. That is why I support Terry McAuliffe for the NY-25 in 2006.

Winning is never the only thing at stake in an election. For 36 candidates and $360,000, we could have done a lot of good. It is even possible that there is another way we could spend $360,000 that would bring us in so many votes, force the GOP to spend much money in defense, identify so many activists, and bring our message to so many more people? I seriously doubt it. I don't want to hear that it would be a waste of resources, because it is so fucking not. Frankly, it would have been the best $360,000 we have ever spent in any election cycle anywhere, considering what it would accomplish dollar for dollar.

We need a candidate on every congressional ballot, period. When it comes to the House, 2004 is now a lost cause. However, starting in 2006, we must never let this happen again. I say we start by recruiting T-Mac for the NY-25, and build an infrastructure that guarantees no congressional district will ever be left behind again.



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Big Media and Common Ground (3.00 / 1)

[I posted this in the open thread, too, but I think it speaks to a strategy that could be used in these long shot districts...]

Right before the Wisconsin Primary debate, I posted about how I thought Howard Dean could dramatically re-shape the race with his own Sistah Souljah moment...

I wanted him to use a big news story, Janet Jackson and the Super Bowl, to get Howard some headlines and I thought I found an intellectually consistent way to do it.

Everyone here thought I was crazy...

I wanted him to link the view by some in this society that there has been a downward spiral of violence and vulgarity in popular culture to the view by others that the media had been letting us down in their reporting of the news...

I wanted him to tag John Kerry (who was getting big support from Sumner Redstone owner of Viacom and CBS) as the candidate of Big Media -- and to tag Bush with this in the general election, too).

The Right and Left come together in their concern about Big Media Corporate Consolidation. It is something that, for different reasons, social conservatives, media critics, and anti-corporate populists can all agree...

Joe Klein was saying on Air America yesterday that Middle America is working long hours and is forced to leave their kids in front of the TV and that they feel powerless against "Liberal Hollywood" and their ability to influence their children's morals and values in the current climate.

But who's really responsible?

Corporations like FOX networks, who on the one hand preach RNC talking points, but who have been the chief architects of the dumbing down of American culture.

And corporate execs like Sumner Redstone, who owns Viacom and CBS, supported Kerry in the Primaries and then switched to endorse Bush in the general.

It is not the liberal Hollywood elite -- it is unrestrained corporate profiteering...

It is not liberals, but Republican supporting corporations.

I'm not saying this as eloquently as I would like, and I apparently didn't in February since nobody wanted to discuss it...

But if we want to start peeling some support away from the Republican corporate power structure in this country, and we want to stop having elections on God, guns, and gays... And we want to start appealing to families with confederate flags on their cars who don't have jobs or healthcare...

Then I think this is a solid place to start.

Still sound crazy?

What's the Point?
by Vermonter on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 12:19:42 PM EST

Re: Big Media and Common Ground (none / 0)

Agreed, see my post below.
by Green Irishboy on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 12:28:14 PM EST
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Re: Big Media and Common Ground (none / 0)

Now see it above. Cool, my post "jumped around"! Hehe...
by Green Irishboy on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 12:41:14 PM EST
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The problem is that (none / 0)

how are you going to convince people to make runs, work long hours, raise tons of money, for a race they know is almost certainly going to end up in bitter and landslide defeat? The reason why these seats were not contested is because no one wanted to put in the effort into what bluntly would be a sure failure.
by jiacinto on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 12:21:50 PM EST

Re: The problem is that (none / 0)

There is always someone willing to fight for the greater good. What Chris is advocating is building inroads into areas we "think" we can never win.

Besides tying up their resources, it is possible that if we properly remarket our image we COULD actually start pulling greater support. Yeah, maybe you don't win this year. Or the next. But then something strange happens a little down the road... you start actually competing.

I do maintain we'll have to refocus our image first. We'll never win if they can just pick us off with name-calling and hot button topics. We win on the big picture, but that's hard to communicate.

by Green Irishboy on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 12:31:16 PM EST
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Re: The problem is that (none / 0)

I will say that every now and then a long shot does win a race. That being said the reason why no one contests those seats it that there is a 90% chance that a campaign there would end up in a defeat. And who wants to go throw the hell of running a race that is all but certain to end up as a defeat?
by jiacinto on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 12:45:58 PM EST
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Re: The problem is that (none / 0)

I totally see your point. I really do. I know for me, that would be very painful, sort of like this election year in general. But I digress.

Still... look at how America works. I mean, these third party candidates actually still get out there and try. They know they're hopeless, but they put up a fight and make inroads. What percentage of the vote did some of these guys get? How many spots did they pick up? Not many, but we are more aware of them. Occassionally, it pays off for them. Either way, they still keep coming back.

I guess if there is someone willing to give it a try, knowing the odds, we should give them the resources to help us out. Like you said, you never can tell!

by Green Irishboy on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 12:51:12 PM EST
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Re: The problem is that (none / 0)

Come up here and ask the 700 or 800 sacrificial-lamb candidates for our political parties, from the last election alone, why (and how) they did it.
by Canuckistan on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 03:00:23 PM EST
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Okay. (3.00 / 2)

So, Chris, shall we add this on the to-do list?

I'd like to see a to-do list get written up. We can post it, see who agrees, who disagrees, but it should b a consensus opinion of the blogging community here, after the debate had died down. But it seems like we've already come to a consensus about many of these issues, I have to say.

I ought to note that I've actually been visiting here for the past 6 months, just never posted. :) I liked reading the viewpoints between doing undergrad work and going to work.

Once we get that done, we deliver our suggestions to the party leadership. Some of the great suggestions I've heard so far;

  1. REMARKET OUR IMAGE. Lots of great ideas on this. Most contentious seems to be, are we the party of liberty and personal freedoms, or are we the party of greater inclusiveness, that is, moving further center (which I, um, really don't like)?

  2. Aggressively and stridently remarket the Republican image, specifically the Radical Right, without stooping to their level. That is, make them look bad to the working class. But without the lying they do.

  3. Pick off some vulnerable senators, that is, aggressively work to get them to switch affiliation. Quickly work to recognize our weak points and bolter them.

  4. Boycott Red businesses and corporations, particularly the media and their sponsors. Obviously, that's an activist thing; I doubt the party would endorse THAT. But I thought it was a pretty good idea. Hit 'em in their pocketbooks, and THEN let them pick on liberals! We're customers, friends.

  5. Work more closely with liberal parties outside the country. That's an idea of mine, don't know how popular that will be. I don't know; we could compare notes, try to work harder to block the global radical right agenda. Put more pressure on the extremists at home and abroad, that sort of thing.

  6. Reach out to 3rd parties who closely share our ideals. That would require a lot more examination and thought, I guess.

by Green Irishboy on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 12:27:30 PM EST

To do list (none / 0)

Good idea.  But, I think we've got to think more in terms of how to change the electorate.  So, I would add:

  1.  Go at their strength.  Get Acorn, ACT to organize evangelical and non-evangelical churches  We're not not going to get the majority but we can reduce the spread and force the GOPs to at least compete in churches.  Right now, we just giving this away.  Look at Jim Baker's son and the many other progressive evangelical's and christians.  We have to at least get into those churches and have 'em hear our pitch.  It is a great base of voters (they show up!) and we should fight to get our share of 'em.  And, if we fight, we force the GOPs to spend more resources protecting their base (rather than going after ours).  

  2.  Get the red out (of the blue states) and cut off the moderate head of the snake.  We have to kill off  the moderate window dressing on the GOP machine.  Beat Bloomberg, Pataki, Arnold, etc.  and be brutal about.  Tie them directly to Delay.  This hurts us in the Senate and nationally as it allows the GOPs to have a nice face (which is key for them with Suburban moms).  We can and should take it away.  I don't know what happened with Hoeffel, why we couldn't tag Specter with Delay but we gotta learn that lesson and make it stick.  It's what the GOPs are doing to us in the South.

  3.  Personalize/Demonize Republicanism and make it impossible for moderates to stay in the party -- I've talked to members of my family who vote Republican and are basically moderate.  They don't believe that Rove/Bush is gonna overturn Roe v Wade, that there going to kill Social Security, etc.  We have to go to where they live and make it clear that they are not just voting for a guy who might do this, they are doing this.  They are fag haters, pro-lifers and that we hold them responsible for it.  Make them uncomfortable.  If Jenna Bush goes to New York to enjoy Clubs tell her (and Anne Coulter) to get the fuck out and go back to Topeka for their fun.  Make them responsible for Rove.

  4. Stop letting our agenda be defined for us, define our agenda.  Let's face it -- we are the party of on demand abortion and gay rights.  Those are the issues that -- in addition to Iraq -- dominated the media cycle (and we let them).  Do we really want to sarifice our party and all civil rights so that abortion remains legal in the red states?  Does this help us (and help abortion remain legal)? I'm a Democrat because I believe we need fairness and a commons in this society -- and right now these are the last things we fight for...

  5. Boycotting businesses doesn't work.  Holding them accountable to the law -- like Eliot Spitzer is doing -- does work.  Let's get State AGs elected in other places where we can do some damange to the crony capitalists and undermine their ability to support the GOPS.

  6.  Go local.  We need to invest in developing local organization in swing districts/precints in the country.  We keep on losing in Orlando/Tampa even thugh the demographics (lots and lots of Hispanics moving down from NYC) favor us because we show up every two years and go away.  We need to spend some money and develop some local leaders that can actually deliver votes.

  7. Go Hispanic.  Why do the GOPs have more public Hispanic figures then we do?  Why do we -- in the blogsphere -- support Betty Castor over a Alex Penalas?  If we want Hispanic votes we need to have Hispanic candidates -- that's what's happening in LA/CA.  If we want to compete in Texas and FL we have to field strong Hispanic candidates and orgs.  

  8.  Attack Capitalism -- not Wealth -- The Free Market is not delivering health care, higher wages, etc.  Workers know this and are bitter but we still allow this "Free Market is better than Government" meme to survive even though we can and should kill it dead.

by lojo on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 01:29:53 PM EST
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Re: To do list (none / 0)

It was only a few years ago (1998) that Loretta Sanchez ran against Bob "B1-Bomber" Dornan, a Congressman in conservative Orange County, CA. No one gave her a chance, but she won! She obviously tapped into the growing hispanic population, and in so doing became a symbol for how to win.

Two years later, her sister, Linda Sanchez won a seat to Congress.

The GOP is going to the Right, so let's give them a push in that direction. We will look moderate in comparison. All we have to do is slice off 5% to 10% of their support to win a lot of elections.

The far right would gladly eat their own young, if they showed signs of moderation. I heard a Winger radio host cut the genitals off of Bill Jones, the GOP candidate for Senate in CA, because he kept a Winger candidate from getting past the Primaries. He also had a few choice words about the Governator, said he wasn't really a Republican. Let's make being far Right out of the mainstream. Let's show how Barry Goldwater would be supporting Democrats against this crowd.

A President in a league of his own, the Bush League!
by Tuba Les on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 08:20:38 PM EST
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Re: To do list (none / 0)

Well said. I totally agree.
by Green Irishboy on Sat Nov 06, 2004 at 08:23:57 PM EST
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Re: Okay. (none / 0)

We also need to end our own extremism and purity on the left.  Racism is bad, no matter who it benefits.  Rural people need jobs.  Show them how a clean environment and restoration works for them.
by beeste on Sat Nov 06, 2004 at 01:28:22 PM EST
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not a failure to run (none / 0)

Excellent post -- I've lived in screamgly bright Red districts in my past and there is nothing more discouraging than having no contest, however meager, to represent my views. Win or lose, I'll always consider my vote my reality-check for those in power. 30%-70% sends a different message than 0%-100% every time -- not to mention 49%-51%...
by musicsleuth on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 12:35:26 PM EST

Re: not a failure to run (none / 0)

A question: when you ran in a district that otherwise might have been uncontested (i.e. you were the 'sacrificial lamb' spoken of), did the media ignore you? Or were you given the opportunity to counter the Republican candidate's press points?

My guess would be that the media would attempt to "be balanced" and essentially give you an opportunity to talk for free quite a bit.

I'm wondering if running in these races might give the most air time for the money to liberal candidates of many other strategies.

by gregbillock on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 06:28:36 PM EST
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Funny that you talked about this (none / 0)

In Cicero, IL, the state senate race was a Republican Incumbent and a Democratic Challenger.  The challenger spent little money and was rumored to be a plant by the republican to reassure re-election.  Long story short, guess who won...yep the "plant".  Part of the reason I think is she was latino and that area has a large latino population.  If we even put up candidates who fit the demographics of that area as challengers, they probably will lose, but they may pull off an upset.  Even spending little money, these candidate can have an impact.  
http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 12:41:57 PM EST

I agree (none / 0)

Running candidates is a way of advertising and honing your message, your vision. New supporters will be drawn, ambivalent voters can be courted, and base voters who now feel abandoned can be encouraged.

It's also a way to build infrastructure for GOTV in big, important elections. Not to mention, vetting and seasoning candidates who can eventually become winners.

by Coral on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 12:45:13 PM EST

Local Races (3.00 / 1)

Contesting every race is laudable and necessary. However, the local races are becoming just as necessary as the national ones.

Should there be any success on the part of the Bush Administration in stripping us of federal rights and protections, and in forcing actions from mandatory prayer to lawsuit limitations, the dirty work of enforcement will fall to the states, and their religious right-controlled state GOP organizations. When Roe is overturned, for example, each state will be permitted to write and enforce its own laws. Focus on retaking the House in 2 years or 4 years will not at all affect what happens in the next 24 months (the traditional 2nd term action period before lame duck status takes over in the next midterm election).

In my state (CT), 50% of the GOP held seats in the House and Senate have run consistently without opposition, and we're a relatively progressive state. In my district, a Democrat hasn't run for either chamber in 10 years. I suspect that in other places, its worse. Each Republican, regardless of their stated personal ideology, represents their national party interests and by extension everything that I think is going to take this country down a desperate road. Each one must be challenged vigorously. There are no uncontestables, because the difference in one seat in New Jersey, for example, is the difference between that state's right wing enforcing Bush dogma, versus maintenence of one of the most progressive state laws and agendas in the nation.

When it all comes down in a few years, the beacons of hope will be the individual states that kept freedom and liberty alight, while the others descend into theocracy and paranoia. Only they will we be able to begin the cleanup work in the places where our ideas still set the agenda.

Go local, get involved. Hell, I'll put my money where my mouth is and run in my district next year if that's what it takes, however that works.

by PostRoad on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 12:48:26 PM EST

contesting elections (none / 0)

Your overall point is well-taken, but Terry won't run for Congress. He'll cash in.
by Stuffy McInnis on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 12:50:40 PM EST

Another cross-border puzzlement (none / 0)

From time to time one of the (multiple) major parties up here has strategically stayed out of a riding, especially during by-elections (="special election") designed to get new party leaders into the House of Commons, but at least one of the parties has a firm policy of ALWAYS running a candidate, no matter how lost a cause, and forcing a real vote.

The last time anyone ran unopposed for a House seat in Canada was almost 50 years ago, in a 1957 by-election. I don't think there's been an uncontested seat in a general election since 1953.

by Canuckistan on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 01:01:27 PM EST

running (none / 0)

This makes a great deal of sense. A relative of mine ran for Congress as a Democrat in a safe Republican District. A month ago he did not even have enough money for bumper stickers (He got them about 2 weeks before the election.). He talked to the local press, went on local TV to debate his opponent and  handed out literature at the train station. He got 31% of the vote. Not bad for a shoe string budget.
by bender01 on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 01:16:00 PM EST

Re: running (1.00 / 1)

no actually that sounds more like the district is around 35% democratic alot of people just party vote.
by orin76 on Sun Dec 04, 2005 at 03:23:11 PM EST
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Another point... (none / 0)

As you pointed out, sometimes just running a candidate shows a potential vulnerability in a Representative.  The fact that Marilyn Musgrave got merely 51% of the vote shows just that, and I wouldn't be surprised if she draws another strong challenger in 2006 (though perhaps not Matsunaka.)
by Tom on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 01:26:39 PM EST

denny hastert (none / 0)

DD:  I think you omitted one.  Denny Hastert was unopposed in IL-xx.  I sometimes think about moving out there just to run against him.
by drlimerick on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 02:10:13 PM EST

Re: denny hastert (none / 0)

Hastert had an opponent in IL 14 on election day - Ruben Zamora.
by BENAWU on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 11:54:51 PM EST
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YES! (none / 0)

We have to contest every single state and every single office.  Not doing so is completely short-sighted.  Even if we lose, we lay the groundwork for a future win or a victory in another election or for another office.

One of the most frustrating things about this election is how we wrote off so many states and seats.  We basically stacked the deck against ourselves before we started.  We assured that we would need an "inside straight"  not just for the presidency, but for the legislative branches.  This can't ever be allowed to happen again.

by alhill on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 02:13:10 PM EST

Unsupported (none / 0)

In our WV-2 race, the challenger was given NO money by the party and no SUPPORT by the party.  He ran a fine race after raising $70,000 on his own.  He made Shelley Capito (R) run for her money. With a little help from the party he might have beaten her.
by risky1 on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 02:28:02 PM EST

I worked closely with a candidate in my district (none / 0)

A huge underdog.  He ended up getting 27% of the vote.

Where was the help from the party?  

I can tell you....NOWHERE.

I spoke with Democrats from a neighboring safe Democratic District about our campaign.  The only thing they cared about was whether it was a "targeted" district.

Well, of course not you idiot!  This is part of the problem. The Dem Congressman there spoke of building coalitions and such, then when I spoke of how we could help each other, I was laughed at.

I'm convinced that the PTB want to continue to be the PTB.  In essense, Dems and Reps alike seem content in staying in power just as long as they don't have their seats threatened.

by oldnorthstate on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 02:37:18 PM EST

to add (none / 0)

this was the first time a Democrat challenged this incumbent in my district in 8 years.
by oldnorthstate on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 02:40:29 PM EST

Getting the word out! (none / 0)

I worked on the campaign of David Sanders here in the Indiana 4th, which has 70% Republican registration.  We got 28% of the vote, which was better than the 22% Bill Abbott got last time.  I asked David why he was running, and he told me a story about how as a Congressional candidate he could call press conferences and hold rallies in places like Martinsville IN where the only source of news people get is FOX.  Were we going to win?  Hell no.  But we did have a platform for getting the word out and a rallying point.  He didn't give up his day job or anything, but he did log a lot of miles on his car.

Dean is right:  run for office, even if you "can't" win.  Winning isn't the only goal.  Who knows, maybe next time David runs again with his name recognition and we scare Steve Buyer a bit.

by Guinho on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 03:46:33 PM EST

Yeah Yeah the big issue is money (1.00 / 1)

then the party should get off it's ass stay out of the races and raise money for the candidates. As it will take atleast 435 million dollars every two years to be competetive in every race
by orin76 on Sun Dec 04, 2005 at 03:26:32 PM EST
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My Candidate is really disheartened (none / 0)

by the whole thing.  Hopefully it is the post election sting we are all feeling.  
by oldnorthstate on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 03:51:54 PM EST

Districts to look at (none / 0)

My mind is running along the same lines, and I put together a list of districts Democrats should start targeting now (including NY-25)-- but I have a little more to say about why these districts look particularly good for Democratic candidates.
by Patience on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 05:35:28 PM EST

Re: Districts to look at (none / 0)

Had a look at the link and it makes a lot of sense. Thanks for putting it up.

Wondering where I can get a list of all the districts in each region.

Thanks

by BENAWU on Sat Nov 06, 2004 at 09:02:55 AM EST
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It's important to educate (none / 0)

One of the best things about knowing you are going to lose is that it gives you the unlimited ability to challenge sacred cows. Usually the third party candidates are excluded from debates because they say things that are uncomfortable for the establishment. THat is what the Democrats need to do. Each "sacrificial-lamb" can spend his time educating voters.

In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve. If they are ignorant, they will vote for ignorance. Democracy depends on a certain level of intellect in the populous.

by Paul Goodman on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 06:21:46 PM EST

Learning from the other side..... (none / 0)

Thank you for writing this.  Wednesday, in a fit of grief over the election, I sat down and wrote a list of things that I thought Democrats need to do in the next couple of years.  I summed part of it up (to myself) as "no gimmies for Republicans".  I argued that every single race in this country, even the most minor, needs to have a Democratic candidate.  

I live in a county where Democrats dominate.  In the last three elections, I don't think I've seen more than one or two Republicans running for local office.  They know how difficult (or impossible) it would be to win.  However, they're still trying to build the party.

Despite this, the county Republican group just opened an office in my town (people moving from a bordering state are making this area more friendly for them).  The office was vandalized almost immediately, but they haven't given up.  They show up at the local farmer's market, community festivals, and anywhere else where they can be visible.  They aren't aggressive about their message -- they're just making their presence known.  They sell cookies and offer literature.  That's what we need to do in the heavily  Republican areas.  Even if a candidate only runs to pin down a Republican incumbent, it's still worth it.  

Here's another (Republican) example:  the Illinois Republican Party had an opportunity to showcase one of their up and coming people in the recent Senate race.  They could have had someone run a clean, positive campaign.  Their candidate wouldn't have won, but could have built name recognition and a reputation for being a decent person worthy of a vote in the future.  They would also have pinned Barak Obama in Illinois.  Of course, they didn't do that, and so Illinois ended up with Alan Keys (snicker).  They could have started rebuilding the party, but they missed their chance.

Democrats can learn from these examples:  start thinking beyond the next election, to laying the foundations for future growth.  Contesting every election (even if it's hopeless) is one way to do this.

by mlr701 on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 06:41:39 PM EST

Poorly contested (none / 0)

This has been a sore subject with me for awhile and one I've yet to be able to get an answer to, despite numerous attempts from the so-called Democratic establishment. Here in my district -- NY's 19th, which is the northern NYC burbs -- the Democrats have repeatedly run weak candidates for the 10 years I've lived here. Two years ago, the woman who ran raised a measley $13K, which doesn't buy much of anything in the New York metro market and yet she still managed to get 26% of the vote against the incumbent Republican. I (and many others) literally walked into the voting booth not knowing the candidates' name. This year, it was more of the same and we got similar results. Imagine what someone with a little bit of money and a little bit of competence could do. I could understand if we lived in some district in the Panhandle. But this is the NY burbs and the best the Dems can do is raise what some Wall Streeters spend on a client dinner?
by mooshi on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 07:31:57 PM EST

Poorly Contested (none / 0)

I grew up in the western part of what now is the NY-25 district.  I think maybe you meant "Wayne County" and not "Webster County"?  Anyways, the district to the west of Syracuse is not only rural, but VERY Republican and conservative.  I know that because growing up I felt as if the Dems in my town could have their monthly meeting in a phone booth and still have plenty of room for newcomers.

You're absolutely right though about not fielding any sort of legitimate candidate.  How could we not run someone against Jim Walsh? I'm surprised the Club for Growth didn't pull an Arlen Specter and run a koolaid drinker against him in the primary.  It's inexcusable to have the only opposition to Jim Walsh be someone from the Peace and Freedom party!

Whether or not NY-25 is ready for T-Mac, I'm not sure.  I'll bet Bush ran very strongly there, and wouldn't be suprised if Shumer's opponent did well there, too.  The former head of the DNC won't be an easy sell in Wayne County, but if he could get a big share in Syracuse and the 'burbs, he'd have at least a 50/50 chance.

by CairoExPat on Sat Nov 06, 2004 at 03:00:56 AM EST

No Opponents??? (none / 0)

The article is spot on.

Here in Australia it is unheard of to not contest any district (except in the occasional by election (special election).

I was stunned that the Dems did not contest districts in states like CA, NY, GA, FL, GA, OK, PA, SC ETC. These are all states that are swing states, have compettive senate races or are safe dem and worth a go as a result. Would contesting KY 5 have made a difference in the Senate race or would contesting those districts in Texas have made a difference in the texas 5 races? How could the texas dems give a free pass to 4! texas goppers who could then fundraise etc against the texas five.

by BENAWU on Sat Nov 06, 2004 at 09:25:39 AM EST

Re: No Opponents??? (none / 0)

FYI here is a list of districts that the repubs didn't contest.

DEM
AR 4
CA 32
CA 33
CA 38
FL 3
FL 11
FL 17
FL 19
FL 23
GA 5
GA 13
IL 2
MA 8
MA 9
NJ 10
NY 6
NY 11
OH 6
OH 11
PA 11
PA 12
PA 14
TX 18
TX 29
TX 30
WI 7

26

by BENAWU on Sat Nov 06, 2004 at 09:29:23 AM EST
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Re: No Opponents??? (1.00 / 1)

THe main difference is I don't think Australians have they type of gerimandering of districts and exstreme two party dicotomy.

 Pa 5,10,9,19 are districts that have been fashion so that the only type of democrat that could win there are pro-war,pro-life democrats that has lived there all their life and the republican in office would haved to do something really awful, or was an open seat.

An example of this more or a local level in the 19th disitrict which is primarily made up of York county pa

On the local level they elected a county controller who defrauded the Boro He is mayor of and someone was elected as mayor of another Boro who is a convicted felon after they news paper ran weeks of articles on it. Simply because they were republicans. It's alot easier said than done competiting with people who have committeed crimes in these areas.

by orin76 on Sun Dec 04, 2005 at 03:42:38 PM EST
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NY 25th (none / 0)

There was an attempt to run in the 25th with disqualified petitions. In Williamson Kerry got about 1175, 200 more than registered democrats. Webster is a town in Monroe County home of xerox which has lost jobs in past ten years.
by banjer on Sun Nov 07, 2004 at 08:21:03 AM EST

Re: Uncontested (none / 0)

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