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HRC (none / 0)

I don't support HRC because she's a carpetbagging Senator who moved for the sole purpose of running for office.  People made a big deal that she didnt get a prime speaking role at the DNC.

She comes from a Republican family and people are saying she's a liberal?  She switched parties--I know that--years ago.

I posted in November my case against HRC on my blog.

The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 08:38:44 PM EST

funny you should say this (none / 0)

i honestly wouldn't have expected that.  considering that her husband governed from the DLC center (check yer sig) and her family was of the goldwater strain of republicans,  why would you - a self proclaimed dlc member - say no to her?

the mind boggles.

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by annatopia on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 08:49:17 PM EST
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Re: funny you should say this (none / 0)

tv time, i'll expand later
The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 09:01:00 PM EST
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is it everwood tonight? (none / 0)

what crack is the wb offering up this evening?

;)

i look forward to your response.  if it's easier, just link the post on your site and i'll go read it.

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by annatopia on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 09:11:19 PM EST
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Re: is it everwood tonight? (none / 0)

everwood, it is.  7th Heaven was a rerun.  Those two and Summerland (not to meant the Amanda Bynes show) are the only ones I bother to watch on the WB.

anyway, i've been typing this during commercial.

Took me awhile to find the link without adding up the hits on my own blog (over 10,400 according to sitemeter).

the case against hilary

btw, nice blog.  it's on my blogroll.

The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 09:48:13 PM EST
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the cartbagger issue (none / 0)

This is from your blog:
I can never forgive her for carpetbagging. Carpetbagging is moving from one state to another just to run for office--and that's why I'm staying in KY except for when I intern or run for the Presidency

It seems that this "carpetbagging" issue is over-riding everything. Do you think it's not permissable to ever move from one state to another and run for elected office in the new state? And, the Clinton's lived in Washington DC for 8 years. They had to move somewhere. It sounds like the only place acceptable would have been Arkansas. Why?

by SF Bay on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 09:56:20 PM EST
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Re: the cartbagger issue (none / 0)

They still retained their voting registration in Arkansas.  However, if they had political ambitions for most of their life (e.g. dana seum stephenson).  For me, I've made my political ambitions clear from the get go--though now I am considering acting and performing comedy.  New York State is similar to Illinois in which you only need to live in a state for a short period.

While the Clintons lived in DC, Bill was elected by the people.  He vactioned at Camp David and I think spent some time in Arkansas during the time as well.

The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 10:03:41 PM EST
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Carpetbagging (none / 0)

Call someone who moves to Kentucky that. As a New Yorker for most of my life, I didn't mind.
by Chris Bowers on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 08:50:29 PM EST
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Re: Carpetbagging (none / 0)

did you know they wanted California and when Feinstein heard this, she was pissed!
The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 09:00:33 PM EST
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Re: Carpetbagging (none / 0)

As a New Yorker for most of my life, I didn't mind.

Nor do I, which is why we elected her.

I think it's pretty unfair to characterize the opposition to Hillary on the left as "hatred," since I believe it has its origin not in a dislike of her person or policies, but in a sincere belief that she's much too divisive a figure to win election as President -- and we're all pretty sick of losing at this point.  Now, your facts and figures present an alternative to that perception, but it's nonetheless true that there's abundant anecdotal evidence, available for any political observer to see, that a lot of people don't like her, or, in any event, wouldn't vote for her.  

I'm still inclined to think that's true enough to take her out of the running, but I don't say that out of hatred or dislike (and my head certainly isn't exploding) -- I think she's an extremely intelligent and able person who's doing a decent job of being my Senator -- I say it because I want to win the next one, and I don't think she can do it.

unfutz
by Ed Fitzgerald on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 09:52:55 PM EST
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Re: Carpetbagging (none / 0)

How many people in NY, esp. NYC, are even from (meaning born and bred in) NY?
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by Reverend AlX on Tue Jan 18, 2005 at 11:00:06 AM EST
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Re: HRC (none / 0)

She switched parties? And you're holding that AGAINST her? Seems to me she saw the light!! And she did marry a Democrat who became the President. I would say her Deomocratic bonifides are fine.
About the carpetbagger business. The New Yorkers seem OK with it. Why does it upset you so much? And, any run for President will be for the whole country right? She was born here wasn't she?
by SF Bay on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 08:50:59 PM EST
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Re: HRC (none / 0)

i'm not upset at her for switching parties but why did they have to move to a state with easy laws for ballot access for a US Senate race?
The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 09:04:36 PM EST
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Re: HRC (none / 0)

So she COULD run. Why else? Having lived in the White House for 8 years, they could move to any state and not be carpetbagging in my opinion.
by SF Bay on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 09:08:26 PM EST
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Re: HRC (none / 0)

So are you opposed to all carpetbaggers or just this carpetbagger in particular? Would you have been opposed to RFK running for Senate from New York in 64?

Of all the reasons to oppose Hillary (and the reasons are legion) this is the oddest one I have heard.

I'm semi-agnostic on Hillary in '08 myself. I think she should run. I doubt I would vote for someone who went to Yale Law School but didn't tell her husband to veto the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996. If she wins the nomination then she deserves it. But I want the process reformed by then, by DNC Chair Howard Dean and his Deputy, Simon Rosenberg.

by MadProfessah on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 09:27:35 PM EST
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Re: RFK (3.00 / 1)

RFK is a different story.  I'm a big Kennedy fan.  I don't know if I could ever find it on my heart to vote for HRC in the primaries or the general election.  I would have voted for RFK.
The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 09:59:27 PM EST
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carpetbagger? (none / 0)

So I guess in 1968 you wouldn't have supported that carpetbagger RFK either...
by LionelEHutz on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 10:30:19 PM EST
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Re: carpetbagger? (none / 0)

No, I am a big Kennedy fan.  I would have supported Bobby Kennedy.  Heck, he first came up with the idea of appealing to moderate conservatives.
The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 11:13:49 PM EST
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